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2Dec/0913

Cage Match: Genesis vs. Ozzy Osbourne

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This week's Cage Match is a unique battle featuring a drummer that can no longer drum vs. a singer that can no longer sing.  It should be a well-known fact that Genesis is one of our favorite bands here at ATV HQ.  I spent parts of the past week insanely jealous of Popdose pal Jason Hare, as he dug deep into the new video box set from Mssrs. Collins, Rutherford, and Banks.  Attempts to persuade the ATV board of directors to authorize funds for the purchase of this hallowed box set of video goodness have been fruitless to date, and we are left to hold out hope that perhaps the video gods will shine down upon us.  Or specifically, I'm hoping they'll shine down on me.

The more I think about it though, perhaps it is all for the best that I don't have a copy of that box set.  Dial up any live version of "Mama" by Genesis, and you will see the visions of Phil Collins that gave me nightmares as a small child.  The same kind of nightmares that Phil Collins-era Genesis gave to an entire nation of music fans for many years - "haters," as I like to call them.  While I couldn't understand Collins and his need to strike fear into me with the video imagery for "Mama," I do still love the hell out of this song, and many other things Collins related - both solo and with Genesis.

With the recent announcement that he can no longer play drums, I'm hoping that perhaps he'll put his musical talents towards recording another solo album that's more No Jacket Required and less "You'll Be In My Heart."

Can you dig that, Phil?

While reading the print edition of the recent Rolling Stone interview with the great LEMMY of Motorhead, I came across a little factoid that I'm sure I was aware of at some point, but it came as a revelation as I read the interview.  You know that one "Mama, I'm Coming Home" song by Ozzy Osbourne that you hear on your favorite classic rock radio station about a bazillion times each week?  Sure you do.  But did you know that that sucker was co-written by Lemmy?

Surprised, right?

This is what's wrong with radio * - all of the many hours that I've spent listening to the average crappy classic rock DJ, I can't say that I've ever heard a single one of them mention this when talking about the song.  Granted, it's Lemmy from Motorhead, and not Paul McCartney, but when you play the song nearly every day, you'd think that they might make mention of this at some point, while searching for something new to say about a song that's nearly 20 years old.

(* one of many things that's wrong with radio)

"Mama" was one of four tracks on No More Tears featuring the assistance of Lemmy Kilmister - the other tracks were "Hellraiser," "Desire" and "I Don't Want To Change The World."

There's your musical lesson for the day - and if you already knew that, well then, good for you.  We haven't been this shocked since that one time that we found out that Joe Walsh played the guitar solo on Richard Marx's "Don't Mean Nothing."

"Mama" or "Mama, I'm Coming Home" - Which one is your favorite?

  • just_kap

    Gotta go with “Mama I'm Coming Home” on this one.

    PS – Goddamn Radio.

  • mycool44

    No band that records a song like “Invisible Touch” deserves any votes, but “Mama” is actually one of Genesis' three best, in my crappy opinion. Love the Ozzy song, but if I'm stranded on a desert island (and I plan to soon), I'll take “Mama” and “Pilot of the Airwaves” by Charlie Dore. Don't ask. No really, don't ask.

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  • http://twitter.com/concertvault Concert Vault

    Between these two songs I'd pick 'Mama I'm Coming Home,' but that's probably the only time I'd ever vote for Ozzy/Sabbath over Phil/Genesis (with the possible exception of 'Who would you prefer to score the next Disney cartoon movie?').

    And I got 2 history lessons – hadn't heard the Walsh/Marx connection before either.

  • Matt

    I'd probably pick Ozzy/Sabbath to score a Disney flick as well, just for fun. You know, screw with the kids a little bit during those all-important formative years.

    As long as we're talking about interesting collaborations that you might not be aware of, here's another one that you might have missed (that I discussed here a while back): George Harrison plays the guitar solo on “Leave A Light On” by Belinda Carlisle. Like the Marx track, once you know that, you can easily pick it out.

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  • Kevin

    While it is certainly not his best tune, Ozzy takes this one because he's Ozzy.

    I'm not a card-carrying Collins-era Genesis hater, but it only got worse as time went on. Those left at the end must take the blame.

    The 80s were a bad time for aging rockers.

  • anniezaleski

    OZZY

  • http://thesixonefournine.com/ judd6149

    I'm with Ozzy & Lemmy on this one.

    I would pay BIG money to see Ozzy bite Phil Collin's head off.

  • http://www.twitter.com/concertvault Dopeburger

    Between these two songs I'd pick 'Mama I'm Coming Home,' but that's probably the only time I'd ever vote for Ozzy/Sabbath over Phil/Genesis (with the possible exception of 'Who would you prefer to score the next Disney cartoon movie?').

    And I got 2 history lessons – hadn't heard the Walsh/Marx connection before either.

  • Matt

    I'd probably pick Ozzy/Sabbath to score a Disney flick as well, just for fun. You know, screw with the kids a little bit during those all-important formative years.

    As long as we're talking about interesting collaborations that you might not be aware of, here's another one that you might have missed (that I discussed here a while back): George Harrison plays the guitar solo on “Leave A Light On” by Belinda Carlisle. Like the Marx track, once you know that, you can easily pick it out.

  • Kevin

    While it is certainly not his best tune, Ozzy takes this one because he's Ozzy.

    I'm not a card-carrying Collins-era Genesis hater, but it only got worse as time went on. Those left at the end must take the blame.

    The 80s were a bad time for aging rockers.

  • anniezaleski

    OZZY

  • http://thesixonefournine.com/ judd6149

    I'm with Ozzy & Lemmy on this one.

    I would pay BIG money to see Ozzy bite Phil Collin's head off.

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  • Mykl716

    Ozzy most definitely. Of course, had this been the R ‘N’ R H.O.F., I’m sure that Phil Collins would have been picked first. I’m sorry, but nothing Genesis has done, short of the tune ‘Abacab’, warrants being labeled “rock ‘n’ roll”. ‘Pop’; sure, absolutely. But NOT rock ‘n’ roll.

    Grant it, Genesis is a ‘prog-rock’ band, but then again so is Rush and they’re far more rock ‘n’ roll than Genesis ever thought of being, so in reality, comparing Genesis with Ozzy seems a bit pointless, doesn’t it?

    I’m just sayin’…